PT433 – From Personal Healing to Public Policy: The Path to Psychedelic Decriminalization in Mexico

August 18, 2023
Featuring: Senator Alejandra Lagunes

In this episode, recorded in-person at Psychedelic Science 2023, Kyle interviews Senator for the Mexican Green Party, Alejandra Lagunes.

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In this episode, recorded in-person at Psychedelic Science 2023, Kyle interviews Senator for the Mexican Green Party, Alejandra Lagunes.

Lagunes is the first Senator in Mexico to promote the use of psychedelics, and has been organizing open parliaments to foster collaboration between researchers, scientists, politicians, and Indigenous people, culminating in a groundbreaking decriminalization initiative to decriminalize psilocybin and psilocin from list 1 to list 3 (meaning they could be prescribed), create a new chapter for entheogens (and move mushrooms there), build an economically beneficial framework for Indigenous people, protect ancestor knowledge by law, and make big bioconservation moves with changes to environmental laws. 

She discusses her personal journey with depression, anxiety, and a life-saving ayahuasca journey; how Covid uncovered a crisis in meaning and an openness to talk about mental health; the need for accessibility and safety in psychedelics against challenges in politics and policy implementation; our mental health crisis and the need for innovation, education, and overcoming stigma; the influence of US drug control policies on international regulations; the power of storytelling; and why we need to go back to our origins.

Notable Quotes

“The world means to go back to the beginning, to the point of beginning. And I like to think that this psychedelic revolution or renaissance is actually going back to the beginning, to the essence. And that space: you have to talk about environment, you have to talk about the planet, you have to talk about ancestors and their relationship with the planet and with the community. …The revolution is going back to that space, outside and inside. It’s like going back to the origin.”

“The medicine is as important as the places they grow in. The medicine is in the ecosystem. You have heard about the mycelium. You can grow a mushroom in your house. That’s great. But the mycelium in those places: it’s for them, the medicine. The rain, the thunder, and the earth, the soil where the mushrooms are grown: it’s the medicine. So we have to protect those areas.”

“You know what I think all the countries should do? The World Health Organization (the WHO) has these lists of substances, and as countries, we can ask our governments to ask for a revision of those lists. So we have to start. Like, there are many ways we have to work the decriminalization. I mean, the psychedelics shouldn’t be in that list, and they are in an international list. So my question is why governments aren’t moving that list?”


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Alejandra Lagunes

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Senator Alejandra Lagunes

Alejandra Lagunes is a leader in digital and innovation initiatives, with a democratizing vision of information. She graduated with honors with a bachelor’s degree in Communication Sciences from the Instituto Tecnológico de Estudios Superiores de Monterrey (ITESM). During her career, she has been a pioneer in the technology industry in both the private and public sectors in Mexico. From 2012-2018, she headed the Mexican National Digital Strategy, which, for the first time, brought government services online. She is currently Senator for the Mexican Green Party. She is actively involved in the Senate as Secretary of the Executive Board and the Science and Technology Committee, and she is also a member of the Health and Environmental committees. She is focused on human rights, innovation, technology, environment & climate change, and health. She is the first Senator in Mexico to promote the use of psychedelics as innovative therapies to treat mental health conditions. To drive this project forward, she has embarked on the task of organizing open parliaments, conversatories, and international forums to bring together and foster collaboration among Indigenous peoples – for whom psilocybin mushrooms are part of their culture – the scientific and medical communities, government authorities, and legislators. As for now, she is focused on building a law project that will recognize Indigenous peoples for preserving the ancient wisdom of psilocybin mushrooms and will allow those in need to safely benefit from their healing properties.

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