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PT411 – The Humanity of Healthcare Professionals, Ancient Psychedelic Use, and Breaking the Cycle of Colonialism

May 23, 2023
Featuring: Priyanka Wali, MD

In this episode, Joe interviews Priyanka Wali, MD: board-certified practicing physician in Internal Medicine, MAPS-trained psychedelic facilitator, comedian, and co-host (with Sean Hayes of “Will & Grace” fame) of the HypochondriActor podcast, where they discuss interesting medical issues in a funny (and hopefully uplifting) way. 

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In this episode, Joe interviews Priyanka Wali, MD: board-certified practicing physician in Internal Medicine, MAPS-trained psychedelic facilitator, comedian, and co-host (with Sean Hayes of “Will & Grace” fame) of the HypochondriActor podcast, where they discuss interesting medical issues in a funny (and hopefully uplifting) way. 

She talks about recognizing and protecting the humanity of healthcare professionals, and how medical school is creating a cycle of hurt people trying to help other hurt people. She believes we need to become more holistic, especially in embracing Indigenous ways of thinking, as their frameworks may be the only way to explain phenomena with which Western science can’t yet come to terms.  

They talk a lot about ancient psychedelic use: the use of a soma described in the Rigveda; Egyptian culture and mushrooms observed in statues; Plato; the work of Brian Muraresku and Graham Hancock; and Vedic chants, Kashmiri Bhajans, and how singing (especially in a group) can be especially healing to the nervous system. And as Wali experienced first-hand the Kashmiri Pandit genocide of 1990, she discusses how much colonialism has changed cultures, and how much our cycles of oppression relate to our collective inability to experience pain and fear.  

They discuss the psychological impact of living through major catastrophes; the special and hard-to-describe feeling of returning to your home (especially in a world changed by colonization and constant conflict); the sad case of Ignaz Semmelweis and hand washing; ghosts of Japan’s 2011 tsunami, the concept of ‘future primitive,’ and more.

Notable Quotes

“We’re only thinking about it from a certain perspective. And this is where you think about principles of colonization come in: looking at things only from one perspective. If you start to bring in Indigenous systems [and] Indigenous ways of looking at data, then suddenly, we do actually have ways to account for these other phenomenon that can’t be objectively tabulated.”

“In traditional Kashmiri culture, it was routine to gather together and sing together. We humans: we’re supposed to gather around the fire and dance and chant. There’s actually something very healing for our bodies. And let’s not forget how our nervous systems regulate with each other, so being physically together as a group, as a collective, singing, using our bodies: it’s actually very healing for the nervous system. We need more of that.”

“I think the next shift in consciousness is recognizing that we experience fear as part of the human experience, but we can choose not to give into it. We can be with it, we can allow it to be there, we can even honor it, but we don’t have to act on it. And we can, instead, choose the path of peace or love, or not even choose those paths, but just choose not to do anything with the fear; choose not to oppress someone, judge someone, lash it out, [or] numb it. …Unless we, in the present day, begin to start being with our fear, we will continue to perpetuate these cycles of oppression.”

Links

Priyankawali.com

Apple podcasts: The HypochondriActor podcast

Wikipedia.org: Kashmiri Pandits

Ripleys.com: The Hallucinatory Voices That Saved a Woman’s Life

When the Impossible Happens: Adventures in Non-Ordinary, by Stanislav Grof Ph.D.

Cosmic Trigger I: Final Secret of the Illuminati, by Robert Anton Wilson

Researchgate.net: Evolution of ephedra as the Soma of Rigveda

Tripsavvy.com: Philae Temple Complex, Egypt: The Complete Guide

Sciencedirect.com: The entheomycological origin of Egyptian crowns and the esoteric underpinnings of Egyptian religion (Stephen R. Berlant)

Libcom.org: What is anarcho-syndicalism?

Psychedelics Today: PTSF 35 (with Brian Muraresku)

Psychedelics Today: Lost Civilizations, DMT Entities, & Altered States of Consciousness and Early Religion, featuring: Graham Hancock

Netflix.com: Ancient Apocalypse

Psychologytoday.com: Kirtan: The Easy Meditation That Can Improve Your Brain

Paannyaar.com: Kashmiri Bhajans – List Of Most Popular Bhajans In Kashmiri

Wikipedia.org: Sankofa

Psychedelicmedicinecoalition.org

The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, by Thomas S. Kuhn

Npr.org: The Doctor Who Championed Hand-Washing And Briefly Saved Lives

My Grandmother’s Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies, by Resmaa Menakem

Historicalindia.org: Genocide of Kashmiri Pandits

Allthatsinteresting.com: Inside The Disturbing Legend Of The ‘Tsunami Spirits’ That Have Haunted Japan Ever Since Its 2011 Disaster

Confronting Collapse: The Crisis of Energy and Money in a Post Peak Oil World: A 25-Point Program for Action, by Michael C. Ruppert

Apple podcasts: SmartLess

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Priyanka Wali

In this Episode

Priyanka Wali, MD

Priyanka Wali, MD, is a comedian, board-certified practicing physician in Internal Medicine, and co-host of the podcast, HypochondriActor. Priyanka was also a psychedelic facilitator at the University of California at San Francisco, participating in research for psilocybin for major depressive disorder (USONA trial) and for anxiety and depression in Parkinson’s Disease. Wali completed participation in the MAPS’ MDMA-Assisted Therapy training program and has plans to be a psychedelic facilitator at the West Los Angeles Veterans Administration research trial studying MDMA for PTSD in veterans. Since undergoing a transformational experience in the Amazon Jungle in 2019 with Indigenous healers, Dr. Priyanka has undergone training in Compassionate Inquiry with Gabor Maté and received training through the Polaris Insight Center to perform ketamine assisted psychotherapy.

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