PT398 – Lost Civilizations, DMT Entities, & Altered States of Consciousness and Early Religion

March 14, 2023
Featuring: Graham Hancock

In this episode, Joe interviews Graham Hancock: legendary bestselling author and writer and presenter of the new Netflix docuseries, “Ancient Apocalypse,” where he travels the world looking for evidence of lost civilizations likely much more advanced than historians previously believed.

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In this episode, Joe interviews Graham Hancock: legendary bestselling author and writer and presenter of the new Netflix docuseries, “Ancient Apocalypse,” where he travels the world looking for evidence of lost civilizations likely much more advanced than historians previously believed.

Hancock talks about his early books and how ayahuasca influenced his writing; the similarities in cave art and the common link of altered states of consciousness; how integral these states likely were toward the creation of early religion (especially Christianity); how much the annihilation of religious traditions has hidden history; why his and Rupert Sheldrake’s Tedx talks were originally taken offline; new understandings of Neanderthals’ intelligence and creativity; the Quetzalcóatl; and the concept of the Younger Dryas impact hypothesis: could there have been an advanced civilization 12,800 years ago that we’re just starting to comprehend? Could it have been Atlantis? 

He discusses the conflict with mystery and archaeology’s obsession with scientism and materialist reductionism – that we keep trying to force everything into little boxes of approved science and have lost our imaginations and openness to possibility, especially when you realize how often narratives are built based on interpretations of data rather than facts (since the farther back we go, evidence becomes harder to come by). He believes science needs humility, a willingness to listen to Indigenous history, and a much more open mind when it comes to altered states of consciousness: “I’m convinced we’re missing something important from our past, and if we don’t look for it, we won’t find it.

Hancock has just announced that he will be a speaker at UK’s Breaking Convention, April 20 – 22 at the University of Exeter, and some of the PT team will be there too! To save 10% off tickets, use code PSYCHTODAYBC10 at checkout.

Notable Quotes

“I think there’s a huge amount of genuine mystery in the past, and there’s an attempt by archaeologists to explain away that mystery, …to just drain the past of mystery and to leave nothing there except dry facts (supposed facts) as archaeologists claim, but which, when you dig deep enough, you find are actually interpretations of limited data sets. I don’t know why archaeologists just want the past to be so boring. …Of course there’s a need for rigor and discipline, but there’s also a need for imagination and openness of mind when it comes to interpreting our collective past.”

“Those paintings included the same geometric patterns and the same therianthropic entities construed in slightly different ways, but clearly the same kind of encounter is being documented in the cave art from 30 or 40 thousand years ago and is being documented by shamans in the Amazon rainforest today. And what’s the common factor? The common factor is altered states of consciousness.”

“With extended release DMT, volunteers are going into the DMT state for an hour and they’re making remarkably homogeneous reports about entity encounters and about the space in which they encounter those entities. One reasonable supposition has to be: there are many possibilities for this, but when people from all over the world see the same things [and] have the same encounters in the same sort of space, you have to consider the possibility that that space is real in some way that our science doesn’t recognize.”

“Psychedelics and experiences in altered states of consciousness have actually been foundational and fundamental to human culture, and by pretending that they’re not, as we’ve been doing for the last 50 years, we’re making a huge mistake. We have to change that outlook and welcome and embrace what these gifts of the universe have to give us.”



Netflix: Ancient Apocalypse

Fingerprints of the Gods – Evidence of Earth’s Lost Civilization

Journey Through Pakistan

Ethiopia: The Challenge of Hunger

AIDS: The Deadly Epidemic

Lords of Poverty

African Ark: Peoples of the Horn

Supernatural: Meetings with the Ancient Teachers of Mankind

Visionary: The Mysterious Origins of Human Consciousness (The Definitive Edition of Supernatural)

Underworld: Flooded Kingdoms of the Ice Age

A-Z-animals.com: Denisovan vs Neanderthal: What’s the Difference?

The Mind in the Cave: Consciousness and the Origins of Art, by David Lewis-Williams

​​The Immortality Key: The Secret History of the Religion with No Name, by Brian C. Muraresku

Psychedelics Today: PTSF 35 (with Brian Muraresku)

Interestingengineering.com: Mysterious disappearance of megafauna: why humans may share the blame


YouTube: Graham Hancock – The War on Consciousness BANNED TED TALK

TEDBlog: Open for discussion: Graham Hancock and Rupert Sheldrake from TEDxWhitechapel

Psychedelics Today: PT381 – DMT, Hierarchies of Complexity, and Reality Switch Technologies, featuring: Dr. Andrew R. Gallimore

Reality Switch Technologies: Psychedelics as Tools for the Discovery and Exploration of New Worlds, by Andrew R. Gallimore

Britannica.com: Quetzalcóatl

The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, by Thomas S. Kuhn

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In this Episode

Graham Hancock

Graham Hancock is the author of several bestselling books and the writer and presenter of the recent Netflix docuseries, “Ancient Apocalypse.”

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